Special feature: Ïã½¶ÊÓÆµappÍøÖ·ÏÂÔØ
Mars - the best interview bar none
Ïã½¶ÊÓÆµappÍøÖ·ÏÂÔØWe can’t say it’s all that often
we bring you a world exclusive, but in this case it’s
not only a world exclusive but another world exclusive. Many
of you will have seen Mars in the night sky recently, the
nearest to Earth for tens of thousands of years. Well, our
reporter Venus Canelleto took advantage of his being in the
neighbourhood, so to speak, and managed to get an interview
with the intrepid Mars. How has Mars changed with the years,
or has he? AN OUT OF THE WORLD EXCLUSIVE
Venus – Firstly, Mr Mars, sir, it is difficult
to know what to call you, you’ve used hundreds of aliases
and been called many things over the years. What should I
call you, and what’s your real name?
Ïã½¶ÊÓÆµappÍøÖ·ÏÂÔØMars – Good heavens, woman, do you think
I’d reveal my real name to a mere earthling? Truth is,
I’ve had so many names and identities I’m a bit
mixed up myself over what my name is. ‘Mars’ will
do to be getting on with, it’s the name I’m best
Ïã½¶ÊÓÆµappÍøÖ·ÏÂÔØVenus – So what do you make of your reputation
as being the hard man of war?
Mars – Well, to be honest it’s a
bit difficult to live down. Give a god, or should that be
a dog, a bad name and all that…… A lot of it is
just rubbish the Greeks and Romans cooked up. Terrible people
the Greeks and Romans for doing that kind of thing, in that
regard they’re pretty much like the Assyrians, Babylonians,
Persians, Aztecs, Mongols, Chinese, Turks, Venetians, Spanish,
British, French, US Americans, and even the Irish, not to
leave them out of it seeing how it is you work for an Irish
publication, in fact pretty much everyone comes up with ridiculous
stories. They come up with a load of old rubbish that no sane
person would believe but they repeat it, and repeat it, and
it becomes the established fact of their time. Unfortunately
it is the Greek and Roman ‘facts’ about me which
are best known, even though I had different names in the two
places – Mars for Romans, Ares or Aries for the Greeks.
Venus – Why ‘unfortunately’?
Mars – Well, some other people at least
had some positive attributes that they gave me, but for them,
no, not a chance, I became god of war and that was that. Though
to be fair to them it was the Babylonians who had earlier
given me the ‘god of war’ label, Nergal they called
me. In Hindu thought I was Kartikeya, and, to the ancient
Egyptians I was Horus, and I even gave my name to Cairo –
from “Al Qahira”, an ancient Arabic name for myself.
Overall I tended to get a pretty bad press.
The Greeks always thought of me as god of war.
The Romans began by thinking of me as an earth-god, god of
fertility – that’s a good one to impress people
with - agriculture and so on, which was fair enough, I didn’t
mind that. But that developed into a god of death, which was
a bit of a bummer, you know, being asked at a party ‘what
do you do’, well frankly, saying “I’m god
of death’ tended to kill conversation pretty instantly.
And then the Romans took it further to being the god of war
and battle. I think it all came about because of my colour,
I tend to be a bit red, and people associated that with blood
– really, it’s rude to make too much of people’s
physical characteristics. I’m quite sick of that, makes
me see red too.
Ïã½¶ÊÓÆµappÍøÖ·ÏÂÔØVenus – But you did get into some scrapes
and battles, didn’t you?
Ïã½¶ÊÓÆµappÍøÖ·ÏÂÔØMars – Yes, but I was pretty young and
naïve at the time. And I hadn’t been through therapy
at that stage – I was still mad with my parents, Zeus
and Hera, for hating me. They always put me down, never loved
me. How could I turn out normal with the upbringing I had?
No wonder I was the kind of person I was, your typical ‘rush
in, don’t think’ young man wanting to wallop anyone
and anything that got in my way. It didn’t matter what
side I was on when I was fighting, sometimes I’d change
sides just like that; my former comrades would be a bit startled
to see me fighting against them and all they could do would
be shout out something like “Ur an us!”. I was
totally mad, out of it, people used to say I was on my own
planet, or call me a ‘Martian’ – I was really
insulted that ‘Martian’ was used as a term of
abuse. It was only much later that I tried to get violence
and mayhem and that out of my system.
Ïã½¶ÊÓÆµappÍøÖ·ÏÂÔØVenus - And did you succeed in getting it out
of your (solar) system?
Ïã½¶ÊÓÆµappÍøÖ·ÏÂÔØMars – Well, not completely, I’m
still prone to the odd fit of rage but I’m continuing
to work on it. Anger management and alternatives to violence
programmes help but I have to be on my guard. I’m much
more pacific now. I try to channel my rage into positive things.
I can still get a bit saturnine at times, by Jupiter. But
other aspects of my life have changed too, for example my
politics has also changed over the years, I don’t support
plutocracy any more.
Venus – So how did you react to fame?
Ïã½¶ÊÓÆµappÍøÖ·ÏÂÔØMars – Pretty typically I think. Initially
I couldn’t get enough of it, I loved stardom so to speak.
All those people talking about me, looking at me, well, to
be honest, the more they talked about me the more I wanted
them to talk about me. Which made me do even wilder things.
But after a little while, after a few millennia, you get a
bit fed up with it all, people inviting me somewhere because
they wanted to see a good fight, that kind of thing. For many
people fame is mercurial but for me it’s permanent.
Then after all that I went through a reclusive phase, I didn’t
want to see anybody. I suppose now I’m learning to take
the rough with the smooth; I value my privacy but I know that
people are still interested in me, and there’s nothing
I can do about that.
Venus – And your relations with women?
Ïã½¶ÊÓÆµappÍøÖ·ÏÂÔØMars – Well, Aphrodite was my favourite,
we really went well together, we were fantastic together in
fact, to have been an item with the goddess of love is really
something, isn’t it. We even had children. But it’s
difficult to maintain a relationship when you get as angry
as I used to do. In my Roman existence I had a thing with
Rhea Sylvia; Romulus and Remus were the result of that love
affair and it made me a superstar in the Roman firmament –
because R & R, as I called them, founded Rome, Romans
used to call themselves ‘sons of Mars’, so I was
pretty much top of the Roman godhead pops, I was ‘father’
to the Roman people.
But the world has changed a fair bit, and now
my violent reputation tends to put women off. Most women run
a mile from me, or if not then a kilometre. That’s difficult.
I’m not macho any more, at least I try not to be, and
I’ve been reading about androgyny, that’s an interesting
concept if interpreted as bringing together the best of maleness
Venus - Just one small detail, what’s
your favourite confectionery?
Mars – Oh please! Do you think I’m
going to knock or endorse some product just because someone
has misappropriated my name? No way! Right through the aeons
people have tried to use my name for their own purposes, the
game still goes on. Even your month of March is named after
me, though I don’t mind that so much , it’s not
selling or promoting anything.
Venus – How would you see yourself now?
Mars – On a journey. I don’t think
I’ll ever arrive. But some people never give me credit
for having changed, they still think of me as that old Mars,
god of war, looking forward to getting his hands bloody and
slaughtering everything in sight. I’m really sick of
that image and reputation. Other people just accuse me of
going round in circles. It isn’t as if any of this was
recent, it’s all a long, long time ago. Anything you
could do to help clear my name would be great.
Venus - And so how would you like to be thought
Mars – As someone who has matured. Yes,
I made mistakes, but I started out with no advantages despite
my powers and I have paid for my mistakes. Depending on your
definition, I’m not old, not even middle aged, I’ve
got plenty of time left to do things in future.
Ïã½¶ÊÓÆµappÍøÖ·ÏÂÔØVenus - What of your future?
Mars – Well, I’d like to go back
to where I began. Agriculture. ‘Earth’ in the
sense of soil and getting your hands dirty. Growing things,
literally and metaphorically, that’s what I’m
into now. There was more life of my planet in times beyond
yore, not life like on earth, but much more than the very
barren position now. So I would be concerned a bit for the
future of Earth as well. I’m into green energy too,
for heating and cooking I use a solar system. But if total
desertification and destruction of the atmosphere could happen
to the planet named after me, well, it could happen to Earth
too. But there is time and hope, not a lot of time before
you earthlings get it completely messed up, and some countries
can’t see in front of their noses, that George Bush
guy and the USA oil lobby really makes my blood boil. I can
feel myself getting angry again.
Venus– Well, don’t do that, not
right now anyhow.
Mars - I’m also very much into music these
days and I’d like to spend more time on that, it helps
with the old nerves as well. I love playing all sorts of music,
I play 23 instruments personally but I also listen to and
play recorded music, in fact I do a bit of amateur DJ-ing
. I just play whatever comes to mind, even if it’s inappropriate
for the time or mood, so some people accuse me of playing
an “in Neptune” at times.
Venus - Before we finish, is there anything
else you’d like to add?
Mars – Some people still look to the young
me as a model. All those people into arms and armies, they
like to think of me and what I seemed to represent. Well,
I can tell you I was going nowhere when I was into violence,
a one way street to loneliness, pain and misery. I know –
I’ve been there, been miserable myself and also caused
endless pain and suffering. It wasn’t worth it, I achieved
nothing. Now, I do feel I have the chance to achieve something
– that makes me feel good about myself, positive, that’s
a real change and something I really treasure. I’ve
had so much shit to put up with over the years, really I have.
Ïã½¶ÊÓÆµappÍøÖ·ÏÂÔØVenus – Well, thank you very much for
taking time out of your hectic schedule and fast social orbit
to talk to ‘Nonviolent News’. I wish you all the
best in your journeying, you’re quite a voyager, you’ve
come a long way both literally and metaphorically.
Mars – Thank you, it has been a pleasure
talking to you. I have to try to set the record straight.
By the way, would you like to see me tonight? I’ve certainly
taken a shine to you, it would be heavenly to get together
– you know the sky’s the limit for me.
Ïã½¶ÊÓÆµappÍøÖ·ÏÂÔØAll right, after that exclusive interview with
Mars, back to normal. Billy here himself with a few more thoughts
before you cook the dinner/books/your goose or fall asleep/down
the stairs/into the autumn.
Ïã½¶ÊÓÆµappÍøÖ·ÏÂÔØRape and Pilger
D’ye see John Pilger’s programme
‘Breaking the silence’ on UTV/British ITV on 22nd
September? It looked at the aftermath of wars in Afghanistan
and Iraq, and what had changed or not changed, also contrasting
US and UK statements with reality.
Ïã½¶ÊÓÆµappÍøÖ·ÏÂÔØAfghanistan is a total mess. The government’s
writ only runs in Kabul and it has no reconstruction budget
worth talking about. The warlords control most of the country
and fear and rape are used regularly. A destitute woman went
to the USA embassy pleading for help because her husband and
children had been wiped out by a US bomb (she had documentation);
she was called a beggar and turned away.
In Iraq the contrast was more about what was
promised and what is current reality. It showed Condoleeza
Rice and Colin Powell at separate times in 2001 saying Saddam
Hussein was no threat, he couldn’t get weapons because
of embargoes. A US Department of Defense (sick) spokesperson
either didn’t know his facts or was lying through his
teeth; initially saying the US didn’t kill civilians,
he challenged Pilger’s figure of up to 10,000 civilians
killed in the Iraq war, and also denied that the US had sold
ingredients for weapons of mass destruction to Iraq (which
Pilger proved with an extract from the Congressional record).
After a while the spokeperson’s military minder stepped
in and halted the interview – which is something you
might have expected in Soviet Russia or Stalinist era China.
Another US Administration spokesman was interviewed, and while
the camera was still rolling at the end of the interview,
accused Pilger of being a (British) Labour supporter (hey,
wasn’t T. Blair, leader of said party, G Bush’s
only ally in the war?) or a ‘communist’. What
a pathetic attempt to slur incisive questioning.
What I did find alarming, that it should even
be asked (in the sense that it needed to be asked) was the
question of whether the USA was in a pre-fascist phase. For
a minute I wondered had I heard right. But no, it was the
real ‘f’ word (the other is so common these days
as to be unremarkable). With the xenophobia and rightist extremism
existing in the USA today it might seem a good question but
personally I would feel it is a bit sloppy use of the term
‘fascism’ which deserves to be kept for dictatorial
regimes. But that doesn’t mean that ‘democratic’
regimes (and the Bush presidency is not even actually democratic
if you remember what happened at the last US presidential
election) cannot act in a brutal, selfish, hateful, spiteful,
self-centred and neo-imperialist way. The USA has exercised
all kinds of extremism at different times – not just
the Vietnam War which killed millions in SE Asia, not just
the McCarthy era in the 1950s, not just the period around
the end of the First World War when anti-communism first took
a radical right turn, not just US imperialism in the Philippines
and elsewhere around the turn of the Twentieth century, not
just the ‘manifest destiny’ of the mid-nineteenth
century which promulgated the USA’s ‘right’
to dominate the Americas, not just the internal imperialism
of native born whites and settlers who pushed the native peoples
of North America close to extinction. No, US ‘democracy’
has had plenty of extremism without becoming ‘fascist’
or even ‘pre-fascist’. But isn’t it fascinating
that a serious British-produced programme should ask that
question. And indicative of what a deep hole the USA is in
Blowing in the wind
Ïã½¶ÊÓÆµappÍøÖ·ÏÂÔØOur web meister informs us that if you do a
search with Google putting in ‘innate’, guess
what site comes head of the list, why ‘INNATE’,
your favourite (and only!) Irish Network for Nonviolent Action
Training and Education. Meanwhile page downloads on the INNATE
website now average over 3,000 a month – admittedly
many of those are people who stumble there inadvertently,
such as the person I referred to before in this Colm who wanted
to learn ‘to spake sexy Spanish on line’, and
they presumably don’t get beyond the home page. But
good to see that in September, someone who input ‘the
complete consensus’ as their search downloaded 19 pages,
and someone who tried ‘nonviolence quiz’ and came
to the site downloaded 48 pages! Glad to be of service.
Ïã½¶ÊÓÆµappÍøÖ·ÏÂÔØUnfortunately there were others who would have
found the INNATE website unfulfilling. Those who were looking
for “an post cork sorting office phone number”,
“voice trainers in co wicklow”, “2003 email
address of jim in london”, or “minibus driving
lessons in co. limerick” (we get about you know) would
not have got what they wanted. Nor indeed would the person,
of the male gender one would presume, who put in “irish
sexy ass girls”, though at least you might be able to
guess what he was looking for. But what would you make of
the people who inputted “the reason the queen is disloyal
to the king” or “partition piano nothing compares
to you”? Answers on a post card please (or an e-mail
if you like).
Meanwhile the British Library have requested
permission to archive the INNATE website as part of their
attempt to preserve some of what’s on the net –
it can be an ethereal and very time limited media. Blowing
our own trumpet would be a bit overdoing it, I think, but
just maybe we could blow our own tin whistle for a little
while. Fancy a tune? But there’s still lots more we
want to get on the website….and the lack of time is
the main obstacle [so offers of help always welcome –
Spies, lies and mud pies
Very interesting. Arms producer BAE Systems
(then called British Aerospace), paid exorbitant amounts to
have the British campaigning group Campaign Against Arms Trade
(CAAT) spied on by at least half a dozen agents in the 1990s
– which emergent fact mystified CAAT as they were and
are, as they claim, always pretty open. This was when CAAT
was actively opposing the sale of BAE’s Hawk jets to
Indonesia, that bastion of human wrongs.
But nobody should be surprised. Some of you
may remember the McLibel trial in London where McDonalds took
a (from their point of view, it proved) foolhardy and long-running
libel action against two London Greenpeace activists (not
to be confused with Greenpeace International) [tho’
you’re doing a good job of confusing us – Ed].
In this it transpired [or do you mean conspired? – Ed]
that in some small group meetings the infiltrators could be
in a majority!!!! So spying by multinational and large scale
enterprises up to no good is not unexpected. And so far as
the ‘official’ state spying agencies In Northern
Ireland are concerned, I would hate to think what they did
not spy on….
What is also very interesting is the extent
to which special branch and the like have spied on peaceniks
in the Republic, a ‘neutral’ state One instance.
1981 and the flowering of the then new wave of anti-nuclear
movement in Europe. Irish CND (Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament)
was closely monitored by the special branch of the Garda Siochana.
I know cos I wuz there. At 11.30 p.m., the then pub closing
time, our lift was passing the GPO in central Dublin on the
way home to the north side when, as fast as you could say
“it’s a hold up”, one squad car pulled in
front, another behind, as if we were dangerous and violent
criminals who would take off at 90 miles per hour down O’Connell
Street if given the chance. Maybe the police had been watching
too many detective movies. Then we were questioned. We were
returning from a ‘Dawn’ magazine (in some ways
a precursor of INNATE) fundraiser in Rathmines What had happened
was the driver, who actually made his living as a taxi driver
though this was ‘in his own time’, had been at
a CND demo earlier in the day, in the afternoon the only possible
explanation is the special branch followed him to Rathmines
and the Dawn fundraiser, and stayed there watching the car
all night until melodramatically swooping in O’Connell
Street at the busiest time of the night, when the pubs were
closing and people were running for the last bus. What a total
waste of police resources. And what a criminal indictment
of a state which purported to be ‘neutral’.
‘A crank is a small object that causes
revolutions’ may be a political slogan or pun, but it
brings to mind the world of sigh cling. It’s good to
see that the numbers of commuting cyclists in Belfast has
been increasing (the bike shop owner agreed with my assessment)
– some mornings ago at 9.15 a.m. I saw almost 15 cyclists
within the space of under one kilometre, admittedly between
a busy road in south Belfast, a bike lane I travel on for
a couple of hundred metres, and a park. Cycling in Belfast,
as in many other places in Ireland, has been a lonely experience
so it’s good to see it on the up. Cycling in Dublin,
on the other hand, is a totally different (though not safer)
experience – upwards of thirty years ago, if I remember
correctly, a US woman setting up a free magazine for Dublin
called it ‘Pushbike’ because of the connotations
Dublin had for her of cycling, and that was before the number
of people cycling in Dublin increased again.
Ïã½¶ÊÓÆµappÍøÖ·ÏÂÔØPersonally I believe the revolution will only
come riding on a pushbike (when it’s not dancing that
is). There are so many reasons. Our Headitor is also a velocipede
user; he tells me some time ago he had a letter in a religious
magazine in reply to a piece about a US seminar on ‘What
car Jesus would drive?’ (!); his letter stated it would
be a bike because he’d like to keep in shape, he could
stop and talk to people as he travelled, and he wouldn’t
be contributing to the destruction of Creation. He ended the
letter with the injunction to ‘Put more phew in the
pew!’. Unfortunately on a global level it is the car
which is still cruising ahead. But like the hare and the tortoise
I believe a second cycling revolution is coming. So put your
best foot forward on that pedal.
Ïã½¶ÊÓÆµappÍøÖ·ÏÂÔØWhich reminds me of an appalling English language
pun with a hint of French thrown in - I haven’t told
it for a while so here goes. A snail went into an upmarket
car showroom to look at the latest expensive cars. The snail
was keen on one particular – and very expensive model.
He asked whether they had the ‘S’ model in that
brand and make of car. No, the salesperson told the snail,
the ‘S’ model would be an extra £30,000
and they didn’t feel the extras it gave were worth it.
The snail insisted – the ‘S’ model or nothing.
The salesperson wasn’t reluctant given it would mean
more commission, so told the snail that it could certainly
be ordered. The snail promptly ordered the car. Six weeks
later the car was delivered to the showroom and the snail
came to pick it up. The same salesperson who sold them the
car asked why they had insisted on the ‘S’ model
when it was so much more expensive. “Because”,
said the snail, “when people see me going by I want
them to say, ‘Look at that ‘S’ car go!’”
Ïã½¶ÊÓÆµappÍøÖ·ÏÂÔØWhich reminds me finally of another, sort of
cycling, joke. There was the black tarmac, the red tarmac
(for buses), and the green tarmac (for bikes). The black tarmac
and the red tarmac met in the pub, and the black tarmac forced
the red tarmac to buy them a drink; the black tarmac was known
to be a bit of a hard character so the red tarmac immediately
agreed to do the buying. In came the green tarmac who came
over to the black tarmac and said – ‘Get me a
drink!’. The black tarmac jumped up immediately, rather
frightened, and ran over to get the drink. Later the red tarmac
had the chance to ask the black tarmac why they were so frightened
of the green tarmac – “Because they’re a
cycle path” came the reply.
Keeping up appearances
Readers of this Colm will know inherently the
importance of keeping up appearances. Nothing can be more
important. And it is certainly not all about material possessions;
once you have your fancy house with all mod cons and big driveway,
a state of the art expensive car, the latest palm top to go
with a new PC, your massive TV with all the latest audio,
video and surround sound, and the trendiest mobile phone,
well, what else is important? So keeping up appearances is
more than just material, indeed it can be a spiritual quality.
In my very first Cyber Colm (NN 83) I gave a short guide to
‘How to be Greatly Humble’. The Dalai Lama had
just been to my locality so I advised that a) you tell people
that you’ve been invited to a private reception to meet
him (or whatever Great Spiritual Leader happens to be in town),
but b) sadly, you say, you already have a commitment to do
something else with group ‘X’ and you couldn’t
possible let them down. That way people know you’re
in with the Great and Good but too Humble to break an existing
Anyway, I got to thinking of the importance
of language and how you say what you’ve been doing.
So here is a handy Cut Out And Keep Guide [mind the glass
on your monitor – Ed]. The first part of the equation
is what the actual situation is; the second is what you say
you’re doing. Here goes. [Looks suspiciously like another
of your Liszts – Ed]
* Going to the library to look up something/anything
= Doing research.
* Reading a book = Doing intensive research.
* Surfing the web = Doing some high tech research.
* Going on holiday to XXXXX = Going on a private visit to
* Writing up your diary/notes of the day = Preparing notes
for your autobiography (or, if you want to be really brazen,
‘Preparing some notes to help your biographer’).
* Reading the gossip and cartoons in your favourite paper
/ Slumping in front of the TV – Catching up on world
* Being seen by someone you know when buying a very downmarket
magazine/paper = Explaining how important it is to keep in
touch with what the person in the street reads.
* Going to the latest blockbuster movie = Keeping in touch
with popular culture.
* Going for a pint with friends/colleagues = Networking.
* Going for six pints with friends/colleagues = Serious networking.
* Having a bit of a cold = Having a serious strain of influenza
which even puzzles your doctor.
* Doing a reasonable day’s work at X = Burning yourself
out in the service of X, and do they appreciate it, no.
* Jotting down the shopping list = Doing some creative writing.
* Nipping out to the shops for a pint of milk = Indulging
in some advanced retail therapy.
* Apologising for being late at a meeting because you simply
left too late or for leaving early because you’re tired
= ‘Apologising’ for having a more pressing engagement
you had/have to attend to. Ïã½¶ÊÓÆµappÍøÖ·ÏÂÔØ
* Being made redundant = Retiring early because there are
some important projects you need to devote yourself to.
Get the idea? The possibilities are endless.
You need never look back. [No, because people will think you’re
a complete pain in the arse, and that’s not even speaking
personally – Ed] [Dear, dear, such language –
Billy] [Dear, dear, no need to call me ‘dear’
- Ed] [Would you rather I called you ‘cheap’?
– Billy] [Let’s terminate this conversation –
Ïã½¶ÊÓÆµappÍøÖ·ÏÂÔØWell, that’s it for another month as we
head towards Hallowe’en and real winter. I hope your
fireside is warm, your harvest is all gathered, (both of these
literally as well as metaphorically), the roof is sound and
there’s food in the cupboard [sounds like a disaster
warning – Ed] [it’s southern horticulturalists
who talk about dis aster – Billy]. Or maybe I should
bid you farewell by saying ‘Buy for now’,
is Billy King? A long, long time ago, in a more
innocent age (just talking about myself you understand),
there were magazines called 'Dawn' and 'Dawn Train'
and I had a back page column in these. Now the Headitor
has asked me to come out from under the carpet to write
a Cyberspace Column 'something people won't be able
to put down' (I hope you're not carrying your monitor
around with you).
Ïã½¶ÊÓÆµappÍøÖ·ÏÂÔØWatch this. Cast a cold eye on life, on death, horseman
pass by (because there'll almost certainly be very little
about horses even if someone with a similar name is
found astride them on gable ends around certain parts
of Norn Iron).